Jacobs seems to be playing with a bad left foot. He steps gingerly with his left - so give him a break.

The interior D-Line has no depth - those guys have come off of some serious knee surgery last year. It is the lack of depth that is the problem here. If the FAs didin't have their problems - then maybe we could have given rest and rotatiuon to the front four.

Tuck had that cheap shot done to him in Game 1 - and is still suffering from it.

OC and DC - you are probably right!

But to queation some of these Giants as malingerers - is unfair with so many hurt this year. Only 1983 was worse re injuries!

Nick

LB - yeah you are right. Pierece at least is intelligent.

"I would not get rid of Coughlin, unless it is was for someone better like Cowher. Cowher is defensive-minded and understands what is lacking, but other than him anyone you will replace Coughlin with will not be as good. " I enjoy Wonder's comments. I learn from them, they are provocative, they are constructive. But the quote I cited at the top of my comment makes absolutely no sense. I have advocated for weeks now that at season's end Coughlin must go and his 2 coordinators must go along with him. Wonder agrees that both Gilbride and Sheridan s*ck and must go. But they were both TC choices. TC signs off on their schemes and plans each week. TC watches passively as they fail to make any meaningful changes at the halves of most games or for the most part at any other time. If they suck where does that leave TC. He agrees with them. He likes what they have to offer. He must go. And as for Wonder's contention that Cowher is the only choice, I agree insofar as Cowher is my first choice as Giants HC next year. But then Wonder adds that ""but other than him anyone you will replace Coughlin with will not be as good." So it is Cowher or Coughlin for Wonder. What has Coughlin shown since Plax shot himself that says he can change and lead this group of men? Nothing. This team is boring, this team is predictable, this team has no passion, no playmakers and no personality. This team has very little in the way of team speed. Far too many fans refuse to see the obvious. It's always "Pierce doesn't have a lot left." A lot left?! He shouldn't be on the field at all!!! He should've retired after last year's Eagle debacle. It's always "TC won a Super Bowl." Add to that "but other than him anyone you will replace Coughlin with will not be as good. " Who says? Somewhere out there is the next Mike Tomlin, the first Leslie Frazier, the next Bill Cowher even. I refuse to believe it is Cowher... OR COUGHLIN. I was at tonight's game in Denver. It was embarrassing. Coughlin must go!

newyorkbaseballgiants- this is one spot where I agree with you and disagree with Wonder. I have no use for Coughlin either because my distaste for the OC is so deep and I am disappointed about the lack of intervention from the failings of last season through to today. Here it is Lewis and Hufnagel were canned and yet Coughlin kept his job. Well, Coughlin lasted through and oversaw a Super Bowl title. But why should it be that he has wholesale coaching weakness under him again and is not held accountable... again?! Do we expect another 2006>2007 version where 2009 gives a >2010 rebirth of two new coordinators and another title. Obvly Wonder implies that is possible, but I disagree with Wonder here and want all the entire staff dismissed. The Giants are steady Eddie and won't likely go this route unless there is a complete implosion the last 5 games. But I agree with u nybbgiants that I'd rather start over. Cowher yes, but new coach aok with me. ANYTHING to get Gilbride out of there.

when you have a good defense, so many people are flying to the ball that it almost seems like you have 12 players on the field....we seem like we are playing with 10....the injuries (and off season surgeries for coburn and robbins) have really resulted in mediocre to poor play from the DT position...there is just no way around that analysis...we get no push, and often the DT's look like their feet are in concrete...and it is true we do need to revamp our LB corps (including an impact inside LB) and bring in another safety in case Kenny Phillips has trouble returning (and even if he does we need to have a better reserve than CC Brown or at least a second reserve in addition to him)). We desperately need a stud DT who can get some push and restore order in the middle. The CB's should be fine once Ross and Dougherty are back to full speed, but even good corners are going to look bad when there is no push from the DL....poor tackling simply indicates a team which has lost the necessary attitude to win in the NFL...you cannot win games in the NFL without sheer ferocity on defense....though blackburn and osi seemed to try to get the D fired up a couple of times, i don't see the whole D on board with that....listless...missing in action.....it literally made me ill to watch that game....how many times was jacobs moving sideways last night?

I am mentally exhausted. I said last night that I was boycotting the remaining games until I see the Giants fire the entire coaching staff. I say that because the only way to get rid of the OC & DC is to purge themselves of Coughlin.

This team quit.

I remember the bad teams in the 60's & 70's with Tarkenton running for his life and the talent level was poor. But those teams never quit. This team has packed it in for a number of reasons. They have tuned out the coaches and that is why the coaching staff has got to go. There is no worse indictment of a team than one that has quit....and this team certainly has.

How do I hate thee? There are so many I will get carpel tunnel before I can fully express myself.

The Giants were doomed right after they won in OT last Sunday. Why you say? Because I read the next morning that John Mara is upset that his team has to travel 2000 miles in a short week and play Denver who was already home the previous week. Yeah, he is right...but Mr. Mara, I blame you. You and your fellow NFL owners wanted a network to grow your sport. Great...good business decision. ( btw, it could have been a home game, but you did not want to inconvenience your fan base on Thanksgiving, so don't cry me a river now ) ...Yes....more revenue streams but at what cost? The same owners who will sign off soon on an 18 game schedule. But leave that for another day.

Mr. Mara, your team took your directive literally and I say never left Jersey. They were there physically but were out of it mentally. Shame on you. You deserve as much blame as the coaches and players for this debacle I sat through last night.

This was a complete breakdown of everything.
Andy & Peter have their opinions and I agree with most but not with all.

Let's talk about Brandon Jacobs. I believe now that he is a "shot running back" The lifespan in the NFL is generally 3-4 years. He is old in football years. He is 6'4" and has taken a lot of hits because he has never been able to run with his pads down. He's done. All year we have been wondering why this man is tip-toeing through the tulips on Sundays. I'm saying it here.

The O-Line has to be revamped...Yes Andy it does but I contend that Diehl is a guard and is playing out of position. I do not have faith in O-Hara either. He might be done. They need to replace 3 parts of the line. Keep Snee & Diehl. Those are your guards. The problem is 3/5 of a line to be replaced is a tall order.

The DL, which was considered a strength going into the season is playing below average. Fred Robbins is clearly out of shape. Rocky Bernard looks as if that was a very bad signing. Canty has been injured and that is an incomplete for me. As far as Osi goes, the only fire I saw from him last night was all the gum flapping he did. He also is not the same player and is always out of position. Justin Tuck is a warrior who keeps his mouth shut and plays hard. I don't want him to become John Mendenhall. Some of you younger fans might not know who he was, but let me say this, he was the shining light on some very bad Giants teams. He was a great DT who the Giants converted to NT and he hated it but played hard every Sunday. He is one of the most underrated Giants of all time. Mathias Kiwanuka is a situational pass rusher, not an every down guy.

We need an impact linebacker for sure. Yes Andy, you were right... Malaluga would have been perfect.

The secondary is battered and we have beat the subject to death, so I will not do this now.

Lets get to the coordinators. I'm going to start with Sheridan because Nature has beat the drum on Gilbride better than I can express.

i loved john mendenhall...i used to shout his name out, MENDENHALL!!!

They said my comment was too long...OMG...this blog did not account for ranting here is the rest...I am mentally exhausted. I said last night that I was boycotting the remaining games until I see the Giants fire the entire coaching staff. I say that because the only way to get rid of the OC & DC is to purge themselves of Coughlin.

This team quit.

I remember the bad teams in the 60's & 70's with Tarkenton running for his life and the talent level was poor. But those teams never quit. This team has packed it in for a number of reasons. They have tuned out the coaches and that is why the coaching staff has got to go. There is no worse indictment of a team than one that has quit....and this team certainly has.

How do I hate thee? There are so many I will get carpel tunnel before I can fully express myself.

The Giants were doomed right after they won in OT last Sunday. Why you say? Because I read the next morning that John Mara is upset that his team has to travel 2000 miles in a short week and play Denver who was already home the previous week. Yeah, he is right...but Mr. Mara, I blame you. You and your fellow NFL owners wanted a network to grow your sport. Great...good business decision. ( btw, it could have been a home game, but you did not want to inconvenience your fan base on Thanksgiving, so don't cry me a river now ) ...Yes....more revenue streams but at what cost? The same owners who will sign off soon on an 18 game schedule. But leave that for another day.

Mr. Mara, your team took your directive literally and I say never left Jersey. They were there physically but were out of it mentally. Shame on you. You deserve as much blame as the coaches and players for this debacle I sat through last night.

This was a complete breakdown of everything.
Andy & Peter have their opinions and I agree with most but not with all.

Let's talk about Brandon Jacobs. I believe now that he is a "shot running back" The lifespan in the NFL is generally 3-4 years. He is old in football years. He is 6'4" and has taken a lot of hits because he has never been able to run with his pads down. He's done. All year we have been wondering why this man is tip-toeing through the tulips on Sundays. I'm saying it here.

The O-Line has to be revamped...Yes Andy it does but I contend that Diehl is a guard and is playing out of position. I do not have faith in O-Hara either. He might be done. They need to replace 3 parts of the line. Keep Snee & Diehl. Those are your guards. The problem is 3/5 of a line to be replaced is a tall order.

The DL, which was considered a strength going into the season is playing below average. Fred Robbins is clearly out of shape. Rocky Bernard looks as if that was a very bad signing. Canty has been injured and that is an incomplete for me. As far as Osi goes, the only fire I saw from him last night was all the gum flapping he did. He also is not the same player and is always out of position. Justin Tuck is a warrior who keeps his mouth shut and plays hard. I don't want him to become John Mendenhall. Some of you younger fans might not know who he was, but let me say this, he was the shining light on some very bad Giants teams. He was a great DT who the Giants converted to NT and he hated it but played hard every Sunday. He is one of the most underrated Giants of all time. Mathias Kiwanuka is a situational pass rusher, not an every down guy.

We need an impact linebacker for sure. Yes Andy, you were right... Malaluga would have been perfect.

The secondary is battered and we have beat the subject to death, so I will not do this now.

Lets get to the coordinators. I'm going to start with Sheridan because Nature has beat the drum on Gilbride better than I can express.

Sheridan is not a people person. That is why he wanted to go back up in the booth. Coughlin orders him on the field. Another bad decision by TC. His schemes are flawed and his players do not understand or comprehend what he wants. That is why Osi left camp...He is a Tim Lewis/Rod Rust clone.

Have you ever seen so many receivers running free in the secondary? They look like chickens running around with their heads cut off.

I am mentally finished and might not be able to blog anymore. It just is not good for my health to keep letting this stuff get to me. Probably most of you have stopped reading this anyway.

On a last note, it is time for the fans to revive the "Goodbye Allie" chants once again....Maybe fly a plane over the new stadium...

Mr. Mara...if you learned one thing from your dad it should have been this...

Listen to your customers, if they are unhappy, try to appease them and fix it. If not you will lose all credibility with them. Please John Mara pay heed as to what your father believed. It will serve you well.

Mitch and Irish, great comments.

Yes, I loved Mendenhall too.

But back to the present, what makes sense the more I think about Wonder's comments is that we did not go from that 11-1 great OL to a BAD OL without something happening. Your players are not great one day and bad the next. It makes complete sense that the unit played well because they knew each other and what they were doing, but eventually the DCs caught up with it and now the Giants OL seems powerless. PREDICTABLE. I keep saying it: The NFL stands for Not For Long. The rest of the NFL caught up with our OL. And it is there on film for anyone of the other DCs to inspect. Mitch- I was a little surprised by some of Wonder's remarks about O'Hara. But when I put it into this context, it MAKES MORE SENSE. O'Hara and the OL didn't just wake up one day and s*ck. It is quite possible the Giants have a "tell" or two which is tipping people off to what the team is doing. People here on this blog do not like Siragusa, but he said in the PHL game that the Eagles knew whether the Giants were running or passing. That'll put you in quicksand pretty fast in this league.

One more thing, Olah, you want us to give Jacobs a "break" for playing hurt? You have commented here before, you know us/Wonder better than that. We would not take a shot at a player who is simply playing through an injury, as we qualify our remarks constantly in that regard. The sense from people like Nature, Wonder, Mitch and myself, to name just a few, is that Jacobs has been playing soft the entire season. He DELIVERED PUNISHMENT AND WAS A PHYSICAL PRESENCE in 2007 and 2008. Other teams did not want to tackle him. In 2009 the entire season he is very average. He is not administering any punishment. In fact, it is the exact opposite, other teams are administering the punishment on him.

do you remember when jacobs was the backup to Tiki, and when he came in it was almost like he was thrust out of a cannon...that was how hard he played....he was unleashed.....it was normal that when he became the premier back he couldnt have that kind of intensity every play, but now he just doesn't seem like the same guy....and i don't care what kind of injuries he has...he is not the same guy........

Jacobs is done....hard to believe but I believe he is finished...sad

irish, our comments got posted within seconds of one another. Wow, I'll add you to the list.. Nature, Wonder, Mitch, myself, IRISH. Yes, we independently agree.

Let's face it, this team is a coin flip away from being on a six-game losing streak. We pretty much ticked off all the problems, many of which have continued from the end of last year, which is of course the worst part of all this.

And as far as the scheduling goes, Mitch hit it right on the head. Getting billions from the networks wasn't enough, they had to do their own network thing and add a ludicrous amout of Thursday games, especially a third Thanksgivng game. I mean, who the hell was clamoring for that? Who cares about travel and injuries and recovery when there's money to be made. Sure it results in sub-par quality football, but so what, right?

1. Overall it seemed to me that Denver was just faster than we were. Like a great college team against a real NFL team. Sad.
2. My son swears he will become a Texans' fan if Gilbride comes back next year, and I almost believe him.
3. The NFL network direction was HORRIBLE. Too many shots of players on the bench when they should have been showing replays, no down and distance indicator until the next snap, etc. I HATED the 'cable'cast.

Last night was the culmination of the exact problems/short-comings we have been reading/writing/discussing on this blog since week 1. I am in 100% agreement about Jacobs and everything else previous discussed. Just one thing I think we should point out in addition to Wonder's comments - The only player I have seen who seems like he wants to hit someone is Jon Goff. Some of his special teams hits have injected life into this team. Why don't they give this guy a shot at Mike? I understand that he's making the calls, but he went to Vanderbilt, he's gotta be a bright guy. Its just another indictment of this coaching staff. Its like they are afraid of letting some hungry younger guys get in there and earn that second contract. (i.e. Jacobs) Same reason why Barden hasn't even taken a couple snaps in our pitiful red zone offense, same reason Hixon is still taking snaps away from Nicks. One bonus of Coughlin is he is VERY good at evaluating talent. Pretty counterproductive when that talent doesn't even get a shot to get on the field.

On the brightside, having high picks in what many are considering the best draft (plentiful talent at S and LB especially) in years might be the best thing that can happen for us at this point. I hate to say it but I am rooting for them to lose out.

After yesterday's pathetic, no show performance in Denver, I'm taking a break from the NYG.

I have been a diehard NYG fan for 50, yes 50 years.
NEVER have we had a team with so much talent play so poorly. That is the really bad part about this.

I live in the DC area, so I don't get the Giants on network tv. This means I drive 10 miles to a sports bar in MD to see the games. There I am last night, Thanksgiving night SHOUTING MY BRAINS OUT at the inept NYG, in a lonely sports bar. I've had it.
No more drives to MD.

This is very sad. I really thought we had enough talent to field a competitive team. I really feel the root of the problem is Gillbrown & Sherbrown.
But TC is no better because he is their boss & holds overall responsibility . Don't tell me TC won us a SB.....we now have too much proof that the SB run was a fluke.........look how uneven the rest of 2007 was , before the playoffs. And look at the collapse at the end of 2008. Now this on top.
Too much evidence that the coaching has failed.

This coaching staff cannot get the most out of the NYG talent. Maybe they really have lost the players.

In defense of the OL Wonder pointed out what I became so frustrated in watching last night was the predictable vanilla formations. It didn't matter what down they were in they were in that browning shotgun formation with 1 back and 1 TE like 90% of the time. This immediately puts the OL at a disadvantage. They are either a) throwing or b) running a draw (I am not going to include screen because they only run it once per game) and this allows the defense to be aggressive on attacking the gaps etc.

The defense is in complete turmoil and disarray as they are as confused as you can get. That play where Stokley was wide open for a TD sums up the entire year for this defense. Bottom line they have no character and completely devoid of any physical will.

We know they will probably lose out the remainder of the way and this gives hope that Mara and Tisch will be forced into making a hard decision on TC. The PSL fiasco is weighing over them and they need to get those seats filled and won't if they continue with this staff. They have to reveiw this all the way back to November of last year and that this is not an enigma. TC has lost this team, lost leadership, lost discipline and quite frankly we've lost confidence in his ability to hire quality coaches. His old school style is out-dated and out-coached.

The 'experts' are going to talk about a lot things (Eli, play calling, injuries, 2 days rest, etc) but the main thing that stood out to be was - they are getting pushed around on both sides of the line of scrimmage. They are getting no push on offense or opening holes (which is mainly why Jacobs looks so bad) and they are getting no pressure up the middle on defense so the QB had all day back there. I think that is the crux of the problem. And what is depressing about that is, that has always been the strength of the Giants. Its not the receivers - i think they have a set of really good, young receivers. Its not ELi - ELi has his 'bad Eli' momements, but its the line, on both sides. Like others have said, this may be in large part due to the vanilla plays that are called. Whatever is causing it, the problems stem from both sides of the line of scrimmage. I don't think that will be fixed anytime soon. The bigger picture is actually more depressing than this one loss. I don't see them fixing this without some major changes. Starting with both coordinators. I'm beginning to wonder how bad it will have to get before changes are made.

I agree with Motown Blue that the players have plainly tuned out TC. ("We will improve as the season progresses." Uh, no. "We will play disciplined football." Not so much.) And why shouldn't the players tune out TC? They MUST know that both of the coordinators he selected are dolts.

This team isn't getting better; they make the same mistakes, game after game. All of the hallmarks of the G-men's demise were on display last night. The blown coverages in the Red Zone (Stokely TD), the failure of the RB (Jacobs) to pick up the blitzing LB (both times resulting in sacks), the lousy kickoff return coverage (i.e., the long Buckhalter return setting up the TD drive when it was only 16-6), the DE (Uminyora) consistently out of position ... and on and on.

But Jerry Reese has to shoulder his share of the blame. His free agent signings were either horrible (Bernard; CC Brown) or mediocre (Boley; let's give Canty an incomplete), and he blew opportunities in the draft to address serious needs at LB and Safety.

All in all, it's a group failure.

THIS is as bad as it gets. There was absolutely no hope in that game. There was not a second of that game in which I thought the Giants had a chance. They have no fire, they have no fight. The living, breathing personification of this is Brandon Jacobs. He looks finished to me as an NFL running back. And it's not due to the fact that he took too many hits. He used to run hungry. He's not hungry anymore. Can you say Shaun Alexander at the end of his career? What a heartbreaking fumble by Ware, because I actually thought he could have provided a spark.

The defense. Oh god, the defense. Man, how demoralizing is it when your D can't stop the run? That is the sign of a truly bad D. And did you see how the Broncos always gained an extra 3-5 yards at the end of every play? That is the sign that a team has given up. No one tackles. Clearly no one's working on their pass rushing moves. Instead, they're working on their "I was held, please throw the flag, Ref" move. I don't care if you're held. Get off the god damn block and make a play.

Hey! Last night we saw screens. Boy, did we ever see screens. I think the offense tried to run about 10 of them in a row at one point. That's not really what I had in mind, Gilbride.

This team gave up. Everyone, from the coaches down to the players gave up. They were looking forward to the plane ride home from the opening whistle.
I was going to mention Mario Manningham as a positive, but of course he goes and lets a sure touchdown go right through his arms at the end of the game.

I'm honestly shocked. Peter, let's have that drink. On second thought, let's make it two. They're DONE.

Ralph V from the Daily News gave his 3 Goats awards
(IE Screw ups from the Denver game) To Gillbrown and
Sherbrown........he agrees with us.

Speaking of screw ups, what the hel* was CC Bwown
doing on the field so long on Sunday ? Is the coaching staff brain dead ?

Ralph V also pointed out the obvious continued confusion in the secondary. How can this be happening in week 10 ? Ralph is also talking about
Sherbrown getting fired. If Coughlin doesn't fire Gillbrown & Sherbrown, then he must depart also.

I know that we've been beating this drum for a while now but can the Giants problems be as simple as changing the coaching staff?
I've read several comments about the old Eli being back, Jacobs being finished, the defense in general not communicating, playing soft, the OL not producing, etc... _ THIS IS COACHING.
When you have your whole team look lost on defense, that smells of a lack of confidence in the scheme and for good reason. The better players at this level have instincts to know and see when they are out of position due to scheme. We have seen several plays where some of the players aren't making adjustments and other players leave their coverage to attempt to cover the blown assignments leaving the defense in complete chaos. This often happens at the beginning of the season and as the team adapts to the scheme and "buys in" the adjustments become second nature and the team has cohesiveness. There has not been a "buy in" moment for this defense. That is because they haven't had success stopping the run first nor pressuring the QB second. We haven't had much play on the opposition's side of the ball at all this year. Entirely to vanilla of a scheme for any good offensive team with a moderate amount of talent. We beat the teams we did to start the season because we had vastly more talent. We beat Dallas because Romo was very generous in that game. When we started to play against talent we were out coached pure and simple.
As for the offense, the average points per game 24.7 is deceptive. We averaged 30.2 ppg in the first 5 games this year, just 20.2 since - exactly the average of the six teams season ppg average we played during our 1-5 stretch. Average.
With the amount of talent on offense, I would expect more than that. We are getting it put to us. Prior to the tail end of '08, we dictated what happened at the line of scrimmage - that wasn't just Plaxico. What adaptations have we made? We can't run block, we haven't been great at pass protection either. The defense shows us looks and we are trying to change plays at the last second. No hurry up or tempo changes to make the defense react. The key being react instead of dictate. A good OC or for that matter HC would pick up on this and do something. Instead we get incredulous looks from the sideline despite the fact that everyone in the stadium, or watching at home for that matter knows the play being run and that it had about 0% chance of success. The run plays are obvious, the audibles are easily discernible, and the passing plays do not seem suitable to the game situation. I am certain the major contributors to this blog can and would call a better game given the chance. I don't see how we can overcome the coaching deficiencies at this point in the season. We will likely see the team mail it in for the rest of the season if Romo doesn't gift us the game next week.

Any team we play with a half decent coach that knows a thing or two about play calling, scouting, and preparation will KICK OUR F'en Ass. It happened against Arizona and it happened here. I had a terrible feeling about this game. Denver in a must win situation at home with a coach that is intense, intelligent, and actually makes adjustments. We were screwed. Our coaching staff sucks period. I hope we lose out get our fucken asses kicked and clean house. Which still probably won't happen. And we will have '10 to deal with Gilbride and TC (they might pull the trigger with Sheridan if we lose out but not TC or Kildrive). No adjustments whatsoever. Teams with good coaching eat us for breakfast! New Orleans (Sean Peyton), Arizona (Ken Whisenhunt), Philly (Reid, but mainly McDermott a Jim Johnson Disciple like Spags), Cowgirls coaching staff is piss poor(why we won) but even a retard with a coloring book is more imaginitive that our coordinators and could beat them by watching tape from Denver, Philly, or NO.

Wonder, I said back when the draft went down I was pleading for Mauluga. Begging, praying to god we were smart enough to take mauluga. But No! IMO Reese fucked us bad. He had one good draft year and thats it. Ernie Accorsi built that SB team not Jerry Reese. I said in the beginning of the year "Who the Fuck is Michael Boley?" Everyone was saying even in preseason when you saw the beginning of the disaster with Sheridan. Oh wait til Boley and Canty are back. Canty is a fat bum, injury or not. He was, is, and always has been and always will be a below average DL with above average size. Thats it. Michael Boley can't even make the fucken starting lineup on the Atlanta Falcons Defense for christs sake and we sign him to a 30 million dollar deal. WTF was Jerry Reese Smoking? Chris Canty we signed him for 42 mil cause his only sacks with the Cowgirls all season were against us. WTF you got the Cowboys signing Brooking from atlanta for next to nothing and he's a 7 time pro bowler. And look what he's done to that defense. He's a playmaker. You bring up Ray Lewis. I said at last years seasons end cut pierce and sign ray lewis. He was available and we couldve got him for less than what we payed for Canty! Seriously and even if you want canty another 5 mil and we could have had Ray Lewis instead of Boley. We got a handicapped MLB in Antonio Pierce who should be on the sidelines coaching thats it. Blackburn has always been a special teams guy and career backup. His name should be changed to Chase Backup. But at least he plays with intensity and has heart. Danny Clark is a special teams journeyman thats at the end of his career but we'll still play him over our promising rookies cause TC is our coach. Noone else on the D showed heart. When CC Brown is leading our defense in tackles and plays you know we are SOL (sh*t out of luck). Fire Reese, for his horrible FA acquisitions (also not keeping Kawika Mitchell) and the 09 draft blunder of not trading down to get mauluga we had 15 fucken draft picks for crying out loud! Ramses Barden we have yet to see, Sintim I hope turns out to be a player but I doubt it. Sintim looks the part but does he play the part? Time will tell but when you look at his college highlight film all his plays were against the worst NCAA D1 conference (the ACC) and their worst teams(Duke, UNC, BC). But Mauluga playing at USC the biggest stage in College Football and projected to go in the mid 1st round he would have been a steal. A player from the beginning. Out of all the teams in the beginning of the 2nd round before Cincy you don't think one of them would have been willing to move up a few spots and take one of our 3rd or 4th rd picks as well. Seriously when we didn't it stung me and bothered me about as much as us not going for the end zone against SD.

Worst part is I really think we still make the playoffs. We will beat Dallas next week cause Tony Homo is a choke artist and his record in December is garbage. The momentum from the win gets us in a shootout with Philly but swirling meadowland winds ruin Eli and us. Yet we beat Carolina the week after somehow we stop the run maybe cause we hopefully will learn and have our younger LB's in Goff, Kiehl, Wilkinson, Sintim. Now we're 8-6, we beat Washington cause they are Washington and have no offense whatsoever (9-6), and then in a game that means the end of our season if we lose we beat a Minnesota team that is resting starters on Defense, AP, and Brett Favre. Yet our D still struggles against Tarvaris Jackson and Chester Taylor, but we squeak it out in the end. Then a First Round Playoff loss to either Philly again or Arizona. We end the season 10-6 first round playoff oust, shit draft pick, and we're still stuck with TC and Kildrive. Doomed til Coughlins contract expires.

Mayor- your 10-6 scenario is actually possible. Wade Phillips (Romo turnovers) is the gift that keeps giving. Dallas is playing better than W2 and we are playing a lot worse. Any given Sunday says the Giants are in it, but I do not see it. Dallas has 10 days to rest/prepare, so do we. Whatever edge we may have had in that dept went down the toilet. The biggest difference since Week2 is Miles Austin. Despite Webster containing him somewhat, the Sheridan schemes will have the Dallas offense get the opptys. Garrett will look at the tape of Sheridan Weeks 6-12, take those 10 days to prepare and he will have plenty of answers.

I totally agree with Wonder, The secondary S*Cks and what we need are hitters as I remember all the Giant Teams had hitters not just one but all 4 of those guys would hit and opposing teams new it This but can't even tackle.
As for the Coaching Staff they all must go, they all have their heads in the sand and they don't even talk to the players. I don't want to have another 3 years of lousy football
If I was picking a new Head Coach, I would want somebody young with new ideas as the National Football League has changed, its not that run run run anymore I would look into Todd Bowles of the Miamai Dolphins ass't head coach worked under Bill Parcells and is New Jersey born.
I remembered at Yankee Stadium in the 60's the crowd yelling out "Good Bye Allie", Maybe at Giant Stadium the last few home games left they should start yelling "Good Bye Tom"
My blood runs blue butr this present team is not playing with Giant pride.